Mindset First: The Key to Health Transformation with Dr. Derek Alessi

Dr. Derek Alessi shares his transformational journey from a 244-pound college freshman with a 44-inch waist to becoming a health and fitness expert who helps others achieve sustainable results. His discovery of exercise science changed his career path from dentistry to health and fitness, leading to an 85-pound weight loss in just one year.

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• Mindset must come before strategy when approaching health and fitness changes
• Taking ownership of your health decisions is liberating and essential for success
• Professional guidance prevents injuries and ensures effective exercise programming
• Different injury patterns emerge based on gender - women typically develop knee problems while men experience more back and shoulder issues
• Quality ingredients matter - New Zealand protein standards require 100% grass-feeding versus just 4% in the US
• Sustainable packaging eliminates plastic toxicity risks for both bodies and the environment
• The human body makes very few mistakes when mind and body work together rather than against each other

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Chapters

• 0:48 Introduction to Dr. Derek Alessi
• 1:45 From Dentist to Fitness Advocate
• 6:29 The Power of Mindset First
• 13:08 Creating a Consistent Fitness Plan
• 18:38 Common Fitness Challenges by Gender
• 22:49 Quality Food as Top Health Priority
• 26:59 Strength Genesis and Sustainable Products

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:25

Hi, how are you? This is Dr Damaris Maria Grossman and this is the Mindfully Integrative Show, and today we have a wonderful guest on the show for you guys to meet and understand and get to know. His name is Derek, dr Derek Alessi, and he's going to tell you a little bit about his company, but a little bit about why he is in the health space and what he has done for himself and for others and how he can impact you, and some more information. So thank you, derek, for being on the show and thanks for just kind of coming in and kind of giving us some insight of what you know, why you feel like you made changes and, obviously, why health is super important to you.

Speaker 2: 1:00

No, thank you, and I enjoy sharing the message and thanks for having me on the show For me. I've been in the health and fitness field for 32 years, helping people in the clinical route lose weight, drop body fat, improve their health and fitness and the quality of their life. And when people ask me, did I always know I was going to do that for a living? My answer is no, I was going to be a dentist.

Speaker 1: 1:22

Really Okay.

Speaker 2: 1:23

I was going to be a dentist. Yeah, no, I was going to school, undergrad. I was going to go to dental school. That was what I wanted to do, and when people ask me, why did you want that? And the answer was pretty straightforward I had two reasons. Reason number one is I had an uncle who was a dentist and he had a practice and I was following in his footsteps. Number two is I also was 244 pounds. I had a 44-inch waist when I was a freshman in undergrad and I never thought of health and fitness ever before in my life. So I was not the jock, I was not the fitness guy, I was not the anything. So luckily, I had to take some prerequisite classes in this brand new field called exercise science.

Speaker 2: 2:07

Oh, it was a brand new field back then Okay, well, yeah, nowadays it's pretty well known, but in 1989, not every school even offered it. So I had to take some prerequisites, and more so than just finding it interesting. I found as though it spoke to me. It's kind of like saying hey, you know, you should be doing these things. On top of just learning about them, you should be doing them yourself.

Speaker 1: 2:28

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 2:29

And the message struck me loud and clear. I never knew exercise had a science. I didn't know anything about it other than the fact that some people seem to jog. Some people at the time were lifting weights, they wanted to be bodybuilders and so on and so forth, but I didn't know there was a science behind it and I found it ridiculously interesting. It spoke to me, more so because of the fact that I didn't want to have a 44 inch waist, I didn't want to be 245 pounds. So I took the message to heart and I really just did two things. I started lifting weights with some friends, probably four times per week or so, not knowing anything about what I was doing. And number two, I didn't know a lick about nutrition, other than the fact that if it was junk food, so if it came out of a wrapper, I probably shouldn't eat it. That was it and within oh, but taught Like.

Speaker 1: 3:14

I feel like we're not taught like at all.

Speaker 2: 3:18

No, and certainly not back then, I think, a lot more information-.

Speaker 1: 3:20

I mean more now, but I wouldn't say back then no, not at all. No, not at all Not.

Speaker 2: 3:23

Not at all. No, not at all, not at all. And I should preface this by saying both sides of my family are from Italy, right? So, both mother and father. So I had all of the Italian delicacies you could ever imagine growing up, and it seemed to hit me a little bit harder than it hit my siblings. So I was holding a lot of weight Nonetheless those two things just lifting weights, avoiding junk food and within one year I dropped about 85 pounds and went from being the heaviest kid in my graduating high school class to, as a freshman a man in my freshman year in undergrad, on the stage of a bodybuilding show.

Speaker 1: 4:00

Amazing.

Speaker 2: 4:01

In about a year, year and a half Now. Bodybuilding did not speak to me. I did not like it. I did not like any aspect of it other than the training. I did enjoy that, but I didn't like everything else that went along with it and I certainly didn't like all the contest prep, tanning and removing all the hair from your body I mentioned.

Speaker 2: 4:21

Both sides of my family are from Italy, so that was no small task. All of that posing trunks and everything else that went along routines and doing like your posing routine. It didn't appeal to me at all. But what I did love is the transformation that happened along it. So I kept pursuing exercise science, taking additional classes, and it eventually led me from changing my major, from going to dentistry, so pre-med, to into exercise science, which is that I, of course I pursued and got a PhD in exercise science. But that was kind of my transformation. That's how I got into the field and that was geez. That was 1989. So it was what, 36-ish years ago, that I started that quest, and each and every day I'm still passionate about it and work in this field in many different ways, and my message always is to try to inspire other people to do the same.

Speaker 1: 5:11

I think it's, I think it sounds. I mean it is important, not even sounds. It is important because it's like if you can change one person today and then another person and then you've changed your perspective on it. I mean, back then it probably was quite challenging going through the nineties trying to get people to, like, eat differently, you know, and change their thinking. And OK, you do have to exercise this and I mean there were so many fads and who knows what, but that must have been, you know. And then it must have evolved over the years on how to probably transition for each of these. You know, your clients and such.

Speaker 2: 5:45

Yeah, you know it's interesting when there's pros and cons that anytime you're trying to do something. So if you want to start with some of the cons, if we're thinking about nothing but diet, we were in the middle of low fat, no fat diets, which was very popular at the time, and when you eat low fat, no fat diets, generally speaking, you're eating a lot more carbohydrate based foods. So all of those things from snack well products, low-fat things and so on and so forth were very prevalent. So there's a lot more carbs at the time. So that was the con. If you ask me, like, what are some of the pros of it?

Speaker 2: 6:17

When you go back into, like the early 1990s and even in the early 2000s, people had a different sense. Number one most people were a little bit more committed and determined and they took more ownership. I think now people get distracted a lot easier. Maybe it's the internet, maybe it's the pace of society, maybe it's the fact that the mindset isn't quite as developed as it was back then for a lot of people that were more sophisticated, but there was pros and cons to both of it.

Speaker 2: 6:46

Nowadays the challenge is cutting through the clutter, trying to keep people from just trying to do bad things. So if you wanted to kind of relate this to school, a lot of people are cramming for their final exam. They're not studying all year long, they're not going to class and they're hoping they could just cram for the two or three days before their final and get a decent grade, which would be equivalent to they're not going to have their health and fitness be consistent, they just want to, at times, crash diet, they want to go on some type of keto, they want to go on some type of intermittent fast. They want to go to the gym five times a day for the next two weeks because they're crashing before they go on a trip or before the New Year's resolutions or something like that. So I'm always about the message of you want to be a good student, you want to do things consistently and you don't want to have to cram at any given time.

Speaker 1: 7:37

I think that the message of consistency can vary for each one right, literally. And then the fact that they're not wanting to go and change. I mean that can be for a variety of reasons. What have you found has been challenging with that? Is it mostly mindset for clients recently? Let's go with.

Speaker 2: 8:00

Yeah, I would say that's the place to start, unfortunately, Well, maybe all of them is mindset, Maybe the biggest.

Speaker 1: 8:05

What do you think is the biggest challenge? You think mindset first.

Speaker 2: 8:07

Mindset first.

Speaker 1: 8:08

I think I can agree with you on that too, considering I call myself the company mindfully integrative. You don't change the way you think, like seriously.

Speaker 2: 8:16

Oh, totally, totally Exactly. That's why I love it. It's mindset so so often people want to jump into strategy. So even before they have the mindset, they already want to start talking.

Speaker 1: 8:24

I mean I want to do both too, but I get it Like mindset. Why mindset?

Speaker 2: 8:27

Yeah, you know, should I fast? Should I spin? Should I, should I Zumba? You know they have all these different ideas of what they should be doing, but no, with really the mindset. The mindset is super important.

Speaker 2: 8:38

Once again, I think, if the mindset, if I'm trying to identify myself as being a good student, I want to do what good students do. So I start with the mindset of I want to be a health and fitness person, even if I haven't been so, even if I haven't been, I first must decide why it's important to me, what I'm trying to, what my objective is. Secondly, I have to realize that I am the person in control of this, so I'm taking responsibility and ownership of it. It's not society.

Speaker 2: 9:07

I can't just blame society. I can't just blame government or big food or big pharma, or I can't blame my spouse or my kids. I can't blame my coworkers. I'm putting the food into my body, I'm deciding when to exercise, so I'm taking extreme ownership of it, which is liberating. And lastly, I have to believe that I could pull this off. This is not impossible. I'm not trying to go to the moon by myself here. I'm just trying to change my behaviors, and the longer I do it, the easier it becomes and I become more consistent and I identify even stronger as this healthy, fit person, even though I hadn't been earlier in my life. So the mindset, even before the strategy, is where I think most people should start and it's where they lack.

Speaker 1: 9:50

I can agree with you on that. I think the lacking, you know, the just not understanding what needs to be done, or just like they teeter off toward when it gets hard, or like, oh wait, I plateaued, or I can't even do it, and then they then it's a done, done deal. Um, what have you noticed like well, not even just for your clients, but just for you lately, that you have you changed, like? Has it changed for you over the years, for yourself, or, for the most part, have you had a pretty consistent routine for them Since you lost all that weight? Did you do a pretty consistent like are you got a regimented thing or did you change it up now as you've gotten older?

Speaker 2: 10:33

Well, my staff calls me the robot.

Speaker 1: 10:38

You have a pretty set foods, pretty set things right.

Speaker 2: 10:41

Yeah, so I can assure you that I'm not a robot. In fact, that's my story to a lot of the clients. They say well, it seems so easy for you. Yeah, but what I'm doing is I'm giving you the after version of practicing this for over 30 years. Of course, like anything else like learning a foreign language, like learning a musical instrument, like learning a sport or playing golf of course, course I should get better with this over time. That's the goal. The goal isn't to make it harder on yourself. The goal is to make it easier on yourself, and that's the great part about habits the longer you practice them, the longer you do them, and the longer you work on improving them, the easier it becomes. So, at this stage, if I were to eat or drink something poorly, it's because I decided to do it in advance.

Speaker 2: 11:21

Where, growing up, oh my goodness, it was just part of my everyday life. So, to give you an example of it, I mentioned that both sides of my family were from Italy and my mother would make these things of pasta and Italian delicacies and the giugelini's and the cucciadotti's and all these Italian cookies, and at first it was like, oh my goodness, how can I go like two days without this stuff. Two days right, like, oh my goodness, how can I go like two days without this stuff? Two days right. I'm scared. I was scared out of my mind of going like a day or two without some of these things, because I always had them. Yeah, it turns out that humans can't survive longer than a day or two without all of these italian delicacies without the sugars and the.

Speaker 1: 11:55

Yeah, all the good stuff, right, yeah right, right your mind mind never mattered, for sure it's really understanding it.

Speaker 2: 12:02

It is, and in the beginning people are so scared of that oh my, I always eat or drink this thing. Are you saying I can't do it today? That's impossible, I'll never survive. You will survive, you will definitely survive. But you have to get over the mindset that you can and you will, and once you do that, it becomes easier, not harder. So that has been the philosophy, not only that I teach, but also, too, I try to live by that passion to make each day easier than the next.

Speaker 1: 12:30

What have you like in reference? You were saying mindset, and then what's another key tip that you think is necessary for people to be successful in their health journey? Because I mean, I know now you know you've built like your business and you've built, you know, online products and such. What did you find that has been your next step? That wasn't mindset. What was that for you?

Speaker 2: 12:52

The next step would be probably just coming up with a good, consistent plan. So so often we may see something on the internet, we may see or hear things that other friends are doing that might be inappropriate for us. And I'll give you a great example. Many people especially people over the age of 45, feel as though going to a gym isn't appropriate for them. They feel uncomfortable, they feel intimidated, they feel as though people are judging them. They might come up with well, I have a bad shoulder, I have a bad knee, I can't do this, I have a bad hip. So they come up with all of these things ahead of time and that's not really the way to attack it.

Speaker 2: 13:28

Look, when you look at the human body, whether you have imbalances of the knees, shoulders, hips, back, neck you want to do a program that's appropriate for you and that doesn't mean that you go too easy on yourself, but it's using a professional to design a program that will help the imbalance. That's what physical therapy is all about. But that could also be worked into your exercise program so that you're working the damaged area but also working around the damaged area. That's appropriate for where you're starting from. So if this was school, I have to handle a first grader differently than a 10th grader. I have to deal with a third grader differently than a graduate school student, and it's the same thing with workouts. So the strategy is super important. It's not a one size fits all.

Speaker 2: 14:11

And unfortunately, a lot of people do think well, I know how to exercise, I don't need any help, but do you really?

Speaker 1: 14:19

Yeah, I can definitely attest to that, like as a person you know, losing weight through thought I was metabolically healthy and was like whoa, I'm totally not. Yeah, and then just the changes, like you said, that age, depending upon the age, what people can or cannot do, and then them limiting themselves I think people are afraid sometimes to do certain they're petrified.

Speaker 2: 14:37

Yeah, no doubt about it. And another analogy would be like I'm just starting to play golf, should you take a lesson? No, I'm not going to take a lesson. I'm going to go to the range first and I'm going to do some things before I take a lesson so that I can work some of these. Oh, my goodness, you're going to make it worse. See professional guidance first in this whole thing. Don't try to teach yourself a golf swing. Don't try to teach yourself fitness. Don't try to give yourself an education in school. That's why the school systems have been designed and we have curriculums and all these other good things, because they're evaluating you appropriately. It's the same thing for your health and fitness. So, although a lot of people think they know where to jump in, eventually they don't know and they might do something that's inappropriate for them, which will do nothing but turn them off to the entire process, and we don't want that.

Speaker 1: 15:26

No, no, and you and you kind of like I mean you want them to at least start somewhere. Have you found people do more home things, or are you just depending upon what, what someone needs, like what's your go-to, let's say, exercise that you give most?

Speaker 2: 15:37

I think supervision is extremely important. Once again, most people that come to see me are over the age of 45. They have at least one orthopedic injury or so.

Speaker 1: 15:46

Ah, knee or elbow like a joint injury.

Speaker 2: 15:49

Yeah, exactly, and I think supervision is critical. It's crucial not just to make sure that they don't get hurt, but they're doing something also effectively to benefit themselves. Supervision is super important, even if, though you think you don't need it, you can benefit from having it. It's like having a coach, a teacher, somebody on your side helping you do it quicker, better results.

Speaker 2: 16:10

So I would go with that, and I'm a big fan, specifically, of always trying to strengthen the spine and the muscles around it, so the back and the spine and the core, if you want to look at that group. A lot of the injuries and a muscles around it so the back and the spine and the core, if you want to look at that group a lot of the injuries and a lot of our movement patterns are going to come from the spine and from the back. And in the 30 plus years I've done this, I have never once met a person that said you know, my back is too strong, I just have to, I just have to relay off and take it easy here. It's not the case. We always want a strong back.

Speaker 1: 16:41

I can definitely see that, like, I mean, I feel like the injuries, might you know then? Then your hips are in there back, your shoulders are like, and then who knows who knows what from there. Yeah, have you. I mean, is it a lot more injury? Injuries with these individuals, mostly Cause I mean, you see, you know an array of different things, or, or, depending upon lately, what's your, your, your go-to kind of lately, but over 45, I guess it depends right.

Speaker 2: 17:06

It does depend, but there are a couple of commonalities, though. When you look at it, if a woman is overweight and has been for a while, typically she's going to have knee problem, and it's not just from the weight, but your body is really smart. So the knees move inward, the femurs rotate, the knees move inward, and then what happens is she starts wearing out the cartilage in her knee from the inside or the anterior part of the knee outward.

Speaker 2: 17:31

So if it keeps hitting and then arthritis builds up and then it's bone on bone. We're looking at a partial or full knee replacement only because the femurs have moved inward to balance her weight. So that is really smart. So with women, if a woman comes in, if she is overweight, the chances are it's going to be knee. That's probably 70% of the time. For men it's mostly going to be back, but it can be shoulder as well, because when a man gets heavy his shoulders rotate inward and when they rotate inward he's at much more risk of hurting his rotator cuff because his acromion process and his humerus aren't in the right position. So we have a lot more shoulder problems and back problems with heavier guys. So that's usually where we start with, but it can be injuries in a lot of other places too.

Speaker 1: 18:19

Oh, of course, but no, that makes a lot of sense. I mean, you think about that and then you're trying to go. Okay, so outside of exercise and outside of mindset, what, what's your, your next? Like thought that you would say to someone okay, you're coming to me, so these intervals, come see you online and also in your office.

Speaker 2: 18:39

You know, during the pandemic I did more online, but prior to it and post pandemic, it's all in office. Oh, nice, ok, it's the most effective way I can work with somebody.

Speaker 1: 18:48

Yeah, it makes sense. Where are you located?

Speaker 2: 18:51

I'm located in Buffalo, New York.

Speaker 1: 18:53

Wonderful, ok, even in the cold weather, people got to go. How to move?

Speaker 2: 18:57

Hey, listen, it's the city of good neighbors.

Speaker 1: 18:59

Oh, nice Right, Nice OK.

Speaker 2: 19:01

Yeah, buffalo, people take care of each other. But, that being said, though, it is not known as the fitness hotbed of the world. No-transcript. Certain individuals that are maybe type A personality and more successful sought my services out earlier than ever before, but now it's pretty much a crossbreed of all types of populations. A lot of people that are retirees come to see me, but also, too's pretty much a crossbreed of all types of populations. A lot of people that are retirees come to see me, but also, too, a lot of busy office workers come to see me too, so it's evolved over time. The next phase, of course, I would get into is cleaning up their diet Critical, something that's not taught early enough in a person's life, and, unfortunately, too many bad habits we're going to creep in. So we want to clean that up, because they're going to have to consume food the rest of their life, and we want to make a good stuff.

Speaker 1: 20:08

Yeah, I mean you're the one to come to him and that's a significant, you know, life transformation for you, not just, like you know, physically but just mentally just having to go through that. So people have to understand how to kind of navigate that. I mean, I feel like I have that conversation quite often with people with you know, you think you know, and then they're like oh wait, what's in your pantry?

Speaker 2: 20:30

Yeah, you'd be surprised, right? I do have a couple of quick tips on that. In fact, if pantries keep getting bigger, so does our waistline. The things in a pantry in general are going to be things that increase your blood sugar and your insulin. So in a pantry in general are going to be things that increase your blood sugar and your insulin. So I always tell people the refrigerator which of course people are scared to death of the refrigerator but the refrigerator is going to have a lot of good things in it. The pantry is going to have nothing good for you in it.

Speaker 1: 20:54

Most of it is processed.

Speaker 2: 20:57

Exactly, it's processed, it's shelf stable, it's not essential, it's not a whole food in there. So big refrigerators, small pantries, and you're going to have a smaller waste.

Speaker 1: 21:06

Makes makes a lot of sense. I think what happens is, you know, you ask people what they even have and then they go, oh, I've got this and they've got this, and you just go. Okay, do you probably start off with just telling them did you read the label or is there no label?

Speaker 2: 21:22

Yeah right, exactly, if there's no label, it's a pretty good thing, because it's a whole food.

Speaker 1: 21:26

You hope so, right, right, you know. One person said to me oh my God, you find this joking. So I said I, you know, I had one of those quick conversations with someone. And then someone said well, I was at the bakery and it was a cake and it didn't have a label. Does that mean it's good, can you believe? And she was wholeheartedly, not even laughing. She goes that means it's okay. Right, it's whole.

Speaker 2: 21:47

I just didn't even know what to say Well, she had a point and it's a good joke, but nonetheless it won't help her.

Speaker 1: 21:53

Right, right, exactly. It was like oh goodness, oh goodness.

Speaker 2: 21:56

I like that.

Speaker 1: 22:05

I'm going to the right one, so we joked about that. So what would you like to leave the audience before we go? I mean, I want to make sure that you know they get the most out of our conversation and also just want to get to know more about you.

Speaker 2: 22:24

Yeah, well, I think this. In fact, if you want to prioritize one thing, I would prioritize your food. In fact, even the company that I started, strength Genesis, which is now a seven-year-old company, was all designed around getting the best possible quality food and food supplements into your body, because I'm a huge fan of putting the best possible fuel in the body. So a couple things to point out. Everybody's taken a protein powder or at least most people who's taken a protein powder before we import ours from New Zealand.

Speaker 1: 22:50

So tell me. Why is that? I saw that I was going to ask you about that.

Speaker 2: 22:53

Yeah, no, it's a big thing because it's grass fed. And now a lot of people will ask me yes, but you can get grass fed protein from the United States and you can't. Here's the difference. Grass fed in New Zealand, united States, and you can't. Here's the difference. Grass-fed in New Zealand and New Zealand has the highest standards in the world. If they call it grass-fed, it's grass-fed 100% of the feeding time. So better protein, better B vitamins, more biotin, better assimilation rates so quality sources of clean protein. In the US, grass-fed means it's just hitting a standard of 4% of the feeding time or more.

Speaker 1: 23:25

Really, that's it. Four Goodness, that's a huge difference.

Speaker 2: 23:30

Huge difference, huge difference. So that is one thing. And also, too, the protein is so light and fluffy, it's just pure and delicious, and we love it. Also, we bring in what we call the world's greatest cooking oil, which is cold pressed macadamia nut oil from Australia it is ridiculously delicious.

Speaker 2: 23:51

So it's rich and buttery, but the omega-3 profile is even stronger than that of olive oil and it holds up to a higher temperature than olive oil. So olive oil is a great oil. As I mentioned, both sides of my family are from Italy. It's a great oil, but it's not a great cooking oil, where the macadamia nut oil outshines it in every way in temperature, in omega-3s and in taste. So those are the types of ingredients. That's the type of thing that we get really interested in, interested in. And lastly, we have this Origin Keto salad dressing that is made with 100% extra virgin olive oil. That has been ridiculously hot and popular lately. We haven't been able to produce enough of it.

Speaker 2: 24:34

And this salad dressing you do not need to refrigerate after opening. It's the only dressing of its kind that you don't need to refrigerate, and it's because there are no other bad oils that can oxidize and go rancid. There's no canola oil in it, there's no soybean oil in it, there's no preservatives in it. It's just made from 100% extra virgin olive oil, red wine, vinegar and spices and you can put it right on your countertop afterwards. It's that pure. So all of those things we have at strengthgenesiscom. Ingredients do matter. And, lastly, I package everything in sustainable packaging. And the reason why that matters is if you've ever walked into a supplement store, there's all of these big, obnoxious plastic containers of protein and pills and capsules and vitamins and all these things. Plastic toxicity is awful because all of these microplastics are petroleum byproducts. Increases dementia risk, increases obesity risk. You don't want it in your body, you don't want it in the environment, so we put everything in glass, metal or paper to make sure that there's no plastic involved.

Speaker 1: 25:40

Oh, that's excellent. So that's less of an environmental toxins are out, and then we can go on a whole topic of that alone.

Speaker 2: 25:48

We call it better for the body and better for the planet.

Speaker 1: 25:51

I can't wait to check that out and I also will put that obviously in the show notes for those individuals to reach out to you and to try one of those. I'd love to try the protein and not the dressing. I think I definitely want to try that macadamia oil.

Speaker 2: 26:08

It sounds absolutely delightful. In fact, use a discount code. I'm going to give you a discount code here. Use POD1, p-o-d-1 as a discount code at checkout and you're going to get a discount on your first order.

Speaker 1: 26:18

I'll put that in there for those that are watching or listening. Then they can get in. So that'd be awesome. Thank you so much, and I'll put it in there too. So do you have any other things that are questions for me or anything else you'd like to add in for the day before we go?

Speaker 2: 26:31

I think the human body is brilliant. I think it makes very few mistakes. If the mindset is correct, then the mind and the body are working together as opposed to opposed to each other. And when that happens, it's not just about losing weight and dropping body fat. It's not just about eliminating or reducing medications. It's about improving the length and the quality of your life, which that matters, and it matters a lot. So we want to make sure that you're always putting yourself in the best position possible for your own good.

Speaker 1: 27:02

I could not agree more. I think that's a great way to end the day. So thank you so much for being on the show, dr Derek Alessi, and I look forward to us meeting again for another topic, you know, down the road.

Speaker 2: 27:14

Thank you, and I enjoyed being on.

Speaker 1: 27:16

Thanks so much and thank you guys for listening in and make sure you make it a mindful way every day.