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Understanding Your Metabolic Type Changes Everything
Martin Pytella's journey from systems analyst to health engineer began with a catastrophic event - receiving mercury dental fillings that triggered a cascade of health problems, including debilitating back pain that left him crawling on all fours. Applying his analytical skills to his own health crisis, Martin discovered what he calls the "four pillars of disease": toxicity, malnutrition, stagnation, and emotional trauma.
In this fascinating conversation, Martin reveals how understanding your metabolic type is crucial for optimal health. He explains that people fall along two continuums - oxidation rate and autonomic nervous system dominance - which determine how different foods affect your body chemistry, weight patterns, and even emotional states. This genetic individuality explains why some thrive on high-protein diets while others need more carbohydrates, depending on factors like thyroid or adrenal dominance.
The discussion dives deep into how ancestral diets shaped our genetic adaptations, from Norwegian populations dependent on fish and fermented foods to tropical cultures thriving on fruit-based diets. Martin explains why the standard American diet creates universal harm through refined ingredients, damaged oils, and glyphosate-contaminated GMO foods. He connects these industrial food problems to larger systemic issues, noting how agricultural subsidies make unhealthy foods artificially cheap while creating massive healthcare costs.
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Hi, how are you? This is Damaris Maria Grossman and this is the Mindfully Integrative Show, and today we have an amazing guest, dr Well, I call him Dr my Mind, but he's a engineer health engineer and Martin Patella. He is the owner of Life Enthusiast and also he has another company which we'll have to discuss more with you. So thank you so much for being on the show and for taking the time and telling us a little bit about your story and how health has been engineered in your way. So explain to me what that means. Why are you a health engineer?
Speaker 2:Well, okay In engineering when something messes up.
Speaker 1:Well, first hi, how are?
Speaker 2:you. Oh hey, I'm good. Thank you, it's a pleasure to be here. You know, when you think of engineers, they are responsible for constructing things and making sure that they don't break, they don't fall down. They serve, and so my training is a business analyst in computer science and business administration, and so when that is put to test, we always ask what is the cause of this and can we track it? My own story was just fine. I was a systems analyst working in the information technology, doing a fine job, and then I had an event where a whole bunch of mercury ended up in my mouth without me realizing that that was coming From the dentist or just in general.
Speaker 2:No dentist. I came in with I'm here for a checkup and I trusted the professional I could trust myself. I'm a professional person. I do what's right for the client. So I go there with the expectation that they do right for what's right for me, right for me. Well, I got a sales job on. Now we need to do a whole bunch of fillings. And then it was followed by you have a choice, you can have the white fillings or the silver fillings. I ask what's the difference? And they say, well, the white ones last about 10 years, the silver ones about 20. And I ask is there any other difference? Well, the white ones cost extra, the silver ones about 20. And I ask is there any other difference? Well, the white ones cost extra, the silver ones are covered. So I say, well, okay, and I don't care what they look like, let's go silver. I was not told that. It's a silver amalgam with mercury, and mercury is the most toxic thing you can put into a human body. Ignorance of high parts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're not even Well. I mean I think they've gotten a little bit better, but I mean I still think dentists still put them in. I've seen an inpatient.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this happened in 1977.
Speaker 1:But they still put them in patients. I saw like a five-year-old in the ER not too long ago in urgent care, so they're still doing it.
Speaker 2:Oh heck yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, they're still doing it. When they ship the stuff to the clinic, it's in a hazardous material container. When they drill it out and get rid of it, they are having to trap it and treat it as hazardous waste, but somehow, magically, in my mouth it's just fine. Well, you know a lot of magical thinking in medicine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I mean, they had to try some things like they, you know, the, the. I think the thought was to make change, but you know, then obviously effects came, what happened for you. So you had this, you had these, um, uh, fillings done and this kind of you, obviously. What kind of side effects did you have? What was going on that obviously made you change your perspective on your health oh gosh, yes.
Speaker 2:Well, the first thing was, uh, I had a herpes breakout my first in my life. Uh then, uh, then I had a herpes breakout my first in my life. Then I had a flu, a really bad one, and then I started getting carpal tunnel type of pains, aches and pains. Then plantar fasciitis kicked in and then finally, my back went out. I mean out in such a way that I was sleeping face down in a rocking chair and crawling on all fours to the toilet.
Speaker 1:Oh goodness, so your inflammatory process was just through the roof, yeah, Well, interestingly, what mercury will do?
Speaker 2:it will go into the body, will try and hide it, get rid of it. So it goes in the fat and it goes into low circulation tissues in general, so tendons, discs, discs, bones, that sort of thing. So as it went into the discs, it weakens the disc and then the gravity that's compressing the disc will just bulge them out. And that's where I went so I experienced.
Speaker 2:I had a lot of experience with first the orthopedic surgeon who offered cortisone shot. That's a very temporary relief that fixes nothing. Then I went to chiropractic. That was good. They put me back together. They're good mechanics. They readjust me and I'm aligned when I'm leaving the office. But because my discs are weak it doesn't hold. So I would have to keep coming back over and over. No solution, just maintenance right. Right maintenance right Putting the chewing gum on the leak.
Speaker 1:Not actually fixing anything You're like oh that's great yeah.
Speaker 2:So, 10 years in, I finally just decided to quit. It was like I'm out, I'm done with you people how?
Speaker 1:so what? You're just in general, you were trying the pills that all of these different types of treatments, and nothing really had had made, it had really changed. But what made you come to the to the conclusion that it finally was the teeth enamel? I mean, because not everybody comes to that conclusion well.
Speaker 2:so sometime in I finally say, hey, you're the systems analyst, analyze this. Now, this was 1987, 88, so this is no internet. You go to the library and you check out a bunch of books and you start reading and I did, and a few thousand pages later, in a hair trace mineral analysis I had the evidence in my hand You're toxic with mercury. Then what?
Speaker 1:Then what'd you do?
Speaker 2:Well research I found that zeolite was a very good absorber of heavy metals lead, mercury, cadmium and so on. So I went, found zeolite, got heavily on that, also used fulvic acid and humic acid and free-form amino acids to try and restore and rebuild the damaged tissues. And just a few years later, first the back pain got corrected, then the carpal tunnel went away, then the fasciitis went away. About six years in even all of the allergies that I had picked up along the way disappeared. That's all through the process of cleansing right. Like later I developed this theory. Illness of this sort stands on four pillars toxicity, malnutrition, stagnation and trauma. And the stagnation that's lymphatic system, lack of movement, not enough exercise, not enough physical stress on the body. And trauma well, that's mostly emotional.
Speaker 2:So we need to deal with that, because whatever you pick up on your evolutionary journey, everybody's screwed up in some way right, right.
Speaker 1:Everyone has to really go through their their own uh, quiet time and get through clear out and clear it out, even when it's dark.
Speaker 2:Yeah the dark part you really got to get through it yeah, yeah, I needed to deal.
Speaker 2:it would deal with my mommy issue and daddy issue and brother issue and later I realized, oh my gosh, this is intergenerational. I had to deal with the trauma that's from the wars that my parents were involved in and grandparents and so on. Right, all of that is projected through the epigenetic pathways into the body and it needs to get dealt with. But the really important ones were the toxicity and malnutrition, because eating I was eating the normal, normal diet.
Speaker 1:Oh, the normal diet and where did? You find for you was your malnutrition. What was the like your like for me? I had to make a three. I was really low in it. Like, that was one of my like. Oh, wow, that was an oh, that was an oh. Ha, a couple ahas for me when I found out some of my nutritional deficiencies and I was like, oh, I thought I figured that out. What, what had been some of your?
Speaker 2:like. Well, mostly it's the food as presented by the firm, by the food industry like they you know depleted soils. I diet too rich in carbohydrates. I don't know the pastas the pizzas, the prepackaged. I needed to up the nutrient density in a dramatic way. I needed more minerals and I needed more polyphenols and I needed more pigments and all of that stuff that is found in healthy food and not found in the turkey salad sandwich.
Speaker 1:I'm laughing, but it's just. It's unfortunately so common, right Like to find the colorful foods. You tell people, no, you'd be eating more of that good stuff. And they're like what do you mean?
Speaker 2:I'm like, yeah, you know things that are the rainbow the rainbow right, the herbs, the spices, the well, all of the things that are making aging slower or help to revert whatever. Well, later I came up with degenerative inflammatory metabolic disease, which is what I was suffering from, but in general it's aging. Like if this were happening to me at, say, 55, I would think that it's aging, but it was happening to me at 29. That's not aging, that's breaking down. Yeah, that's breaking down.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's breaking down. So you had then made you were talking about you had done another. You fixed yourself right. What did you do in the process? You said you had started two businesses from this because of it.
Speaker 2:Right. Well, the year was 1999, and we were talking about Y2K and I was in the information technology and it was not clear to me whether we will or will not have this bizarre societal breakdown. I thought, well, I don't know if I have a job, or okay, or not. Okay, I don't know if we fixed it because we tried hard to fix it or if it was nonsense to begin with. But anyway, in the run up to that, I thought I'm going to not be in a major metropolitan area. I'm going to move me, my family, my two teenage daughters, to a small town where we're going to know our neighbors and where we could grow food in a garden if we had to.
Speaker 1:Nice and not like you know where, and you can have fresh food when you need to get some herbs fresh. That's wonderful. And was it as hard to do, or was it pretty easy after when you started up?
Speaker 2:Well, we moved and then, of course, I couldn't do the consulting anywhere, small town, nobody needed me, so I became my own client. I built a website and went online. This was the year 2001 or 2000. Well, thankfully, the internet now is all over.
Speaker 1:At least you know All the internet was happening. Yeah right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So I was in the early days and I decided to build a store that's going to help people deal with their chronic degenerative inflammatory disasters that do not respond too well to the medical treatment.
Speaker 1:And what website is that called?
Speaker 2:It's called Life Enthusiast.
Speaker 1:That's the Life Enthusiast. And you have a wealth of knowledge on there. You have a wealth of knowledge.
Speaker 2:Well, I have been. That website is essentially the collection of my research put forward. I explain the four pillars of disease right the toxicity, malnutrition, stagnation and trauma. I explain that and then I explain a whole lot of errors that are implanted into people's minds by the mainstream approach, because that mainstream approach focuses on treatment, not on healing or cure. Or making a change. Yeah, they're not interested in losing a customer. They're only wanting to have a customer for life.
Speaker 1:I could not agree with you more. I mean, I became, you know, just doing this passion podcast. I was like there has to be people that need to talk about this. There has to be people that are to talk about this. There has to be people that are talking about you know, even if they're using a little conventional they. They have to be changing their mindset, they have to.
Speaker 2:Well, in simple terms, it's like your headache is not caused by a deficiency of Excedrin Right I mean it's like there's, you know, there's obviously something, and sometimes I it's as little as me telling someone have you drank some water today?
Speaker 2:Okay, there we go. Right, Did you sleep? Starts from the air and water and food, and this would be the macronutrients, like starches, carbs, fats, proteins, or further in vitamins, minerals. All of that, there's a cascade of sizes of more importance. So I finally came with full understanding of, well, your spiritual direction is the most important thing, and then your emotional health, your thoughts, and your thoughts will lead to behaviors, and behaviors will give you habits. And your thoughts will lead to behaviors, and behaviors will give you habits, and habits will give you outcomes. And those are that. So you are possibly digging your grave with your own fork.
Speaker 1:With your own fork, but also within your own thoughts that you're saying I like where oh gosh. Yes, yeah, I love the cascade that you're saying I like, oh gosh, yes yeah, I love that, the cascade that you're speaking with, because I want people to hear that, because I I think, yeah, and so that was, that was all before physical, and so we start with the air, water and then the environment itself.
Speaker 2:I mean, these days we have added something massive which is called emr, or electromagnetic radiation or or EMF frequencies, which we are in a soup of stuff that our ancestors didn't live in. So just a little sidebar G5 or 5G, 4g, 5g those frequencies will put out the wave with which your cells will respond, with calcium flooding into your cells. It's called voltage-gated calcium channel.
Speaker 1:And that's all getting emitted through the phones and the computers and all the things.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the routers and the cell phone towers and all of that stuff that's coming at you at all of us, and all of that stuff that's coming at you at all of us. And well, so calcium is the signaling molecule for anxiety or for fight or flight.
Speaker 1:We're always in fight or flight most of us Right.
Speaker 2:So you're driving toward the smart grid downtown and sense of doom and anxiety is flooding you and you're wondering why is that could be the amf coming at you do you think that there do you have like blockage ones, like you have one in your house I've heard?
Speaker 1:seems I don't have one on mine. I have one on my phones and I turn it off on different times. But the um do you have one that's attached to your house and we'll use the blocking ones?
Speaker 2:I've seen those I have a gadget in the house that's called Blue Shield, which sends out a signal that constantly reminds the autonomic nervous system to ignore the radiation and instead focus on staying calm and balanced. That's excellent. There is an antidote available through that method.
Speaker 2:That's great, there is an antidote available through that method. And, yeah, we don't keep the routers on. However, you know, I live in an urban area, so when I turn on my phone, I always see five or six antennas. Anytime I look to see if there's any Wi-Fi available. So I'm always bombarded by the Wi-Fi. So instead I try to use the antidote.
Speaker 1:Okay, what have you found? I mean the wealth of knowledge that I've seen on your website and such. You were saying there's a quiz that you take for your clients. Yeah, we offer metabolic typing and such. You were saying there's a quiz that you take that for your clients?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we offer metabolic typing, the advanced metabolic typing test. It's offered through an online questionnaire about 120 multiple choice questions.
Speaker 1:I have to take it. I need to take it.
Speaker 2:Which website this is on the Life Enthusiast website. Yes, yeah, yeah, look for Advanced Metabolic Typing Test.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's awesome. I feel like everyone has some sort of metabolic issues. I feel like I have that conversation quite often.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and at the end of that we'll come back to you with your endocrine dominance, which drives how you gain weight and lose weight, and your body shapes and your food cravings. Those are all driven through that. And then we also answer your metabolic dominance, which is how you alkalize or acidify, which is the control of your autonomic nervous system, the balance between sympathetic and parasympathetic, or call it fight or flight, rest and repair and digest. And so, just for people who are not clear on this, when you engage into the fight or flight, your blood pressure goes up, you cannot sleep, your pupils open wide, you are excited, unable to settle, you may be drifting into either anger or anxiety. No-transcript.
Speaker 2:And the other side the other side is your blood pressure drops down, your digestion resumes. So constipation lives on the stressy side, diarrhea lives on the overly parasympathetic side.
Speaker 1:Now, like one you're saying to see a math like the high state, the fight or flight that people just aren't getting out of, and maybe having a little bit more information and understanding how that lies Right know your type.
Speaker 2:We can actually tell you how the combination of macronutrients and that would be carbohydrates, fats and proteins, the ratios of these three on your plate or in your meal, will direct what will happen next, because some of us alkalized with fats and proteins and others are just like left-handed, right-handed you flip it, so the other people are alkalized by carbs.
Speaker 1:How some people can have like a pizza and not gain weight, and other people can have a pizza and they're 50 pounds heavier. I don't know, I'm just like you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. The best illustration I can offer you is go to a cocktail party where alcohol is served. The oxidizers are going to get more stimulated, more excited. First they will be louder, then they will get argumentative and then they'll pick a fight Just totally disagreeable. The other ones, the sympathetics, pardon me, the parasympathetics, or the people that are alkalized by carbohydrates the first thing that happens is they are more jovial and then they start losing their inhibitions, then they overshare and then they start crying about something.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm. Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, I'm not one to drink anymore, but I'm thinking about how I was back in the day. I'm like, hmm, which one? I'm certainly probably more of the jovial side.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean you can do it with bananas and whatever, right, oh, any sort of sugar.
Speaker 1:Any sort of high sugar intake bringing like an insulin. So explain that to the listeners, because I so. Is that more on the insulin spike? Is that where you're, you're what? What are you going for with that? Like just a high fructose, um, high sugar? What is? What's the reasoning behind that when you're saying oxidative versus?
Speaker 2:well, it's the dominance. The oxidizer is alkalized by fats and proteins and acidified by carbohydrates. So as you acidify, you're're drifting way out to the more sympathetic.
Speaker 1:That's really cool. I mean, it's science, I mean it really is.
Speaker 2:It's fascinating that it is like that. And so you see the TV commercial for a chocolate bar that says you're hangry, right. Well, the anger side is there.
Speaker 1:That's a fast oxidizer in action oh, when you, when, when you get like the snicker bar or whatever they call it, or whatever they want you to get to have or they're like oh, you're hangry, why are you hangry? And they, they're definitely um. What's it called promoting it for you?
Speaker 2:Well, as a solution, but you're dysregulated right.
Speaker 1:But if it was regulated we wouldn't need the candy bar.
Speaker 2:You may be needing some food.
Speaker 1:You might, but the candy bar won't be the final solution. Well, maybe sometimes.
Speaker 2:Well, so interestingly so, for the person who needs to use carbohydrates to get out of being too acidic, the sugar works, and for the other person, they need something else. They need a I don't know stick of beef jerky or something fatty Okay, spoonful of peanut butter would do it, or I don't know. Whatever they want to eat, that's high fat, high protein.
Speaker 1:What's your go-to for your or? You probably have a pretty good balance.
Speaker 2:For my life. Well, so I'm the type that is alkalized by carbohydrates and I do wake up early, so I'm on the acidic side. So I I normally would be fairly quick, get up early, get lots done, but I'm unpleasant about it. Like, social graces are hard to come by unless I do something intelligent. So I start my day with some fruit, so I will have a fruit smoothie.
Speaker 2:I thought you were going to tell me it's a meditation, but you said no, no, no, no fruit smoothie, or, or I don't know, some watermelon, followed by some grapefruit, followed by some apples full of you know, just gradual. And then the day are you um?
Speaker 1:what kind of um diet do you have? Or I've had some individuals on with raw vegan. They've had some oh yeah, like that.
Speaker 2:So there's, more.
Speaker 1:Yes, I haven't even. I don't know if you have a specific, there are so many layers to it, right?
Speaker 2:Weston O'Price did a marvelous job of traveling the world in the 1930s discovering that so long as you eat your ancestral diet, your indigenous diet, you'll be fine. But as soon as you switch to the industrial diet you dysregulate. So it depends on your ancestors. They are optimized genetically for the food resource that's in that geographic area where they lived. So the further away you are from the equator, the shorter the growing season and the greater the dependency on animal food. Like it's so easy to be a vegetarian when you live in tropics where food is available 365 days a year. You just go into the yard, into the garden, and pick something.
Speaker 1:So it can preserve. Well, and it's you know you're able to cook and when you're farther away you have to salt things, and things have been preserved.
Speaker 2:Visualize Norway or visualize Canada.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Where you have now. Well, in Norway they were dependent on cod that they caught and dried, yeah, and salmon was running, so they would on cod that they caught and dried and salmon was running, but that's a seasonal thing, so they would catch salmon, dry it. They had reindeer for food, their growing season. Their summers are intense but short, so they have vegetables and whatnot, but only for three months out of the year. So they have to ferment things and store them and do stuff like that.
Speaker 1:Okay, and then keeping in that, so you're saying for that individual even their Norwegian right, but they live somewhere else that they need to still eat in their Norwegian ancestry.
Speaker 2:in a way, it's more complicated.
Speaker 1:And more complicated than that Is that.
Speaker 2:OK. So if you move in a region to Florida, they should be eating still some fat and protein, but way more onto the fruit and carb side, because in high heat you need to be eating lighter, whereas the colder it gets the more fats and proteins.
Speaker 1:That takes it to a whole other, because your body takes a lot more energy to break it down.
Speaker 2:So that's the seasonality, regionality and genetic inputs. Like these days it's complicated because you now have a mating of your Norwegian grandmother with your I don't know Cheyenne grandfather, somebody who was living with the bison and buffalo and were ketogenic diet 100% right. Or you may end up with somebody from Malaysia who's all carbs. Oh, never mind Malaysia. Try North Africa, you know. Try somebody who's living on dates, figs, pomegranates and camel milk. Carb on carb, with carb on top of carb.
Speaker 1:And they're used to that. That's not.
Speaker 2:Their genetics tell them that's the good thing.
Speaker 1:You must find it pretty. I mean all these different fad things that must drive, I mean being like engineer and into know it's must buy must don't in a way be fascinating or or frustrating my word might actually be frustrating. Yeah Well, I'm not like I don't know if it all works.
Speaker 2:It's not my fight, but I can help people understand it, like if you ask me what should I do? The answer is understand your endocrine dominance, because it dictates what food cravings you'll have and how you gain weight. Like, if you're thyroid dominant, you'll gain weight on starch and keto diet will keep you slim. But if you're adrenal dominant, it's the opposite you will have temptation for savory foods and a keto diet will put weight on you.
Speaker 1:No, I mean this is fascinating. I mean I feel like I only know a cusp of what you're saying. I mean, on my end I feel I've learned a lot and you know functional medicine side, the integrative side, and I feel like metabolic health is actually I mean, it's not in the infancy, but I feel like the population doesn't really talk enough about it.
Speaker 2:It's not understood or it's not introduced into the general consciousness. Well, let's start with this the industrial food that presents you refined starches, refined sugars so refined flour, refined sugar, refined salt, refined plant seed oils and homogenized pasteurized dairy. That stuff is bad for everyone universally. That will make everyone sick. So that's a cut that Genetically modified foods. Modified foods, cut it out mostly. Not a good thing. I have not found a good one yet but yet it's still in america oh, it's richly present.
Speaker 2:You know? Uh, how about that corn? Right, so you have now glyphosate. You have now glyphosate-resistant corn that you're going to be eating. Well, glyphosate is an antibiotic that kills microbes. That's why it kills weeds. Well, when you introduce it into your body, it will kill microbes inside of you, causing you a leaky gut. Now you're going to be tending towards mental illness and towards dysregulation of every sort. Inflammatory disease, rapid aging, infertility, inflammatory problems, all of that.
Speaker 1:I feel like the list goes on. Do you also have different supplement brand too that you have with your company, or is it?
Speaker 2:or through your Right, so you mentioned that other company. So the other company I inherited recently and it's called Exula and we've been manufacturing superfood blends since 1989. Oh, that's amazing. Okay, that's what you're talking about superfood blends since 1989.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's amazing. Okay, that's what you're talking about superfood blends. I can put that information in the show notes for those individuals, because people will ask.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:We make these blends that are tuned to compensate for the gap that's left behind by the standard American diet. That's so important. There's just zero chance. There's a zero chance that you can now be nutritionally balanced, eating foods that are offered to you in a fast food restaurant or a grocery store. Not going to happen.
Speaker 1:You'll have to compensate. Isn't that so sad it is? I mean, that's so sad.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean we now have administration that made it its goal to make America healthy again.
Speaker 1:I'm hoping. I've seen that it seems like there's a little glimmer of hope that it will make some major changes.
Speaker 2:You know, when you ask me to analyze this, I'll tell you the following so I have a government policy that's formulated through lobbying. So money buys you a lobbyist, which then buys you a vote in the Senate or the representatives, so it will affect policy. So we now have such policy that we promote growing of carbohydrates, we promote wheat, corn, soy yeah, those are the major ones, right, they're subsidized, tax subsidized carbohydrates. So we grow those and we fertilize them and whatever treat them with the lobby promoted chemicals of the big chemistry and big pharma.
Speaker 2:So anyway so tax subsidized food is grown and that it's artificially cheaper than it should be. It's artificially cheaper than it should be that ends up in grocery stores, and now we're buying it with food stamps that are tax-subsidized for people who are needing our help. Now those foods are creating the most illness possible.
Speaker 1:And they're getting the most.
Speaker 2:So we now have the Medicare Medicaid tax-subsidized pharmaceutical-driven health care. It's a sick care system, so I'm feeding the taxes into the production, into what makes me sick, and I'm subsidizing the purchasing of it so that I can tax-subsidize medical treatment. That would not be necessary if I didn't create the problem in the first place.
Speaker 1:If we didn't, if you kept it a little bit more simpler like you know what I mean, and if you discuss with someone, if you just keep it a little bit more simpler, people could eat healthier.
Speaker 2:Well, you would have to take away the economic incentives. There are money drivers that are pushing it.
Speaker 1:That's a whole other conversation.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I agree. Well, I mean, that's what the policies are hoping for.
Speaker 1:right, that's what these new you know, the new nutritional guidelines are changing and that's the hope that we're starting to like really make change on these.
Speaker 2:Well, maybe we could start subsidizing broccoli and lettuce instead of corn and soy. That would be a nice step in the right direction.
Speaker 1:I mean I think we're. I mean at least we got some of those dyes out like at least banned. I mean I'm hoping GMOs would be fully banned, you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a microscopic step in the right direction.
Speaker 1:So microscopic, but it's a little hope, a little shimmer you know?
Speaker 2:Oh, it's great, I'm delighted that it happened, okay. But you know, what's funny is just it was just the word to Kraft, Nabisco and Unilever, or whoever they are is you're already making these products for Europe and Canada, so just start selling them in America too. Oh, and we give you two years to get it done. Come on, just step on it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not too hard. Yeah, I mean, they're already doing it, so just make it happen, right, you kind of go. It's a whole other thing I can't imagine.
Speaker 2:I'll just say it this way. So you have taken out the red dye out of my breakfast cereal. The breakfast cereal is the problem.
Speaker 1:How about no breakfast cereal? We just talked about that. My husband and I were just joking about that because I have a little one right. And you know what do they want? They want cereal, right, like it's that quick thing. And I said no because, like almost all cereal, if you look at the contents of it it's just junk.
Speaker 2:It's the doorway to the metabolic disasters.
Speaker 1:For real, for real, and I'm like, no, not in our house. I mean, it took me forever even to find a semi, even like an inkling, of some sort of cereal that we have in our house that doesn't have an added sugar of something. You know, it's like oh, you know it won't taste good for your son or whatever, and I'm like I can't.
Speaker 2:Well, we need to go full circle to the metabolic type. I mean, if you are the type that does need carbohydrates to normalize, then yeah, okay, well, have some but have some.
Speaker 1:But then you figure. Then those that don't even know, like I. I was talking to a colleague of mine and she was just like I don't know my child's young and still I have a hard time now when I see obese children. That makes me even more like when you know, and then it's just escalating, escalating.
Speaker 2:Okay. Well then, the food industry is designing foods to make them more addictive. It's by design. It's really hard to resist. You want more. I mean, if you leave me alone with a bag of Dorito chips, I will find all the justifications to empty the bag. Yeah, I mean because it tastes so good, like if I'm going to do potato chips or whatever popcorn.
Speaker 1:All the justifications to empty the bag. Yeah, I mean because it tastes so good, like, if I'm going to do potato chips or whatever popcorn, I don't have it in the house, because if I have it in the house you're going to eat it. Right, your Doritos, whatever your bison. Thank you, son, it's going to happen. So, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2:I have to take your quiz. I love it. That's the point. That's the point, all right.
Speaker 1:What would you like to share with the audience before you go today?
Speaker 2:I'd love for them to reach out a little additional insight. Well, I would like them to come by Life Enthusiast that's life-enthusiastcom and just become educated. Start thinking. It's the agency, it's the. Not be a victim of the circumstance. Decide to take control of your life and you control your wallet. And when you spend money, you are placing an order for that item to be replaced. So think carefully as to what you're bringing home, because more of that will be replaced. So think carefully as to what you're bringing home, because more of that will be made. Is it worth feeding it to yourself, to your family? Think about that. Don't do it mindlessly. Do it with resolve. My wish is for people to step out of being hypnotized by the TV and whatever industry, and just start thinking.
Speaker 1:Do you find it more challenging now in the swiping age?
Speaker 2:Yeah, the swiping age, the short attention span is really hard to explain complicated concepts Like you hear me now throwing this nerd speak, engineering, whatever science-y thing. Well, I'll dumb it down. If you're feeling nervous, your pH is off. If you're feeling depressed, your pH is off.
Speaker 1:In the opposite direction Find what puts you back together and do more of that. And I also want to say did you write a book?
Speaker 2:I have a whole lot of content, but it's a free e-book that we give away. Oh, okay.
Speaker 1:Well, I'll have them reach out to you and look at that too, because I feel like you have so much content. I I feel like you have also written a book somewhere in there where you pretty much work with all of that I could have written four probably it sounds like it you have so much wealth of knowledge I I'm learning just from your conversation.
Speaker 1:I I feel like I know some, but you know um those listening, I hope they can get some insight and understand how, not just that it may be complex, but in some way, if they are, just keep it a little bit simple, you know, and just start making change. But you're saying your best bet is to do the quiz and find out your endocrine.
Speaker 2:Dominance.
Speaker 1:Dominance.
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah dominance, dominance.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, what have you found most since? Since you've had this is a new question I've done, since you've had people do the quiz have you found um more, more of one side of the other and how many types are there? How many types are there?
Speaker 2:okay, well, so there are the two types. One we have labels for it, one's called called oxidizer.
Speaker 1:Right the oxidizer.
Speaker 2:It can be fast oxidizer, balanced, or slow oxidizer. And then we have autonomic, and they could be sympathetic, balanced, or the parasympathetic. And so if you wake up in the morning late and lazy emotionally, what's the word? Well, if you tend toward gloomy and depressive thoughts, you're over-alkaline, you can be there as a slow oxidizer or as a parasympathetic. So one gets out of there with carbs, the other one gets out of there with fats. So you need to understand which type you are, because if you do the wrong thing, you're going to make yourself worse instead of better.
Speaker 1:That makes a lot of sense. Thinking about my own, you know, thinking about others.
Speaker 2:So like looking at you. You know, physiologically your endocrine dominance is very likely thyroid, which makes you slender limbs.
Speaker 1:Your wrists are not that yeah, I'm pretty small. I'm pretty tiny.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was heavy at one point and then I lost a lot of weight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, now a thyroid type will gain weight, starting around the belly button and go forward and then to the hips.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:The adrenal ones are different. They're built like… Muscular. Well, they're like you know, in men they are the linebackers, not the quarterbacks. In women, they would look more like a gymnast rather than a runway model. You know all of the runway models, all of the Victoria's Secret models are thyroid types, every one of them. Why the society decided that that's the look you look at, sean Johnson or Simone Biles or whatever, these are the adrenal types. They're built for explosive power and strength.
Speaker 1:Because their cortisol levels are usually pretty extreme, pretty high they can handle it, handle it you know, I I do agree with you on that because I've taken care of, um, a number of athletes uh, professional athletes, and you know, and usually doing a metabolic panel or functional panels. Um, you know, do the cortisol checks and their, their cortisol checks are through the roof, but their cortisol checks are through the roof, but their cortisol checks are through the roof. For more, I mean, yes, they need to be brought down here and there, but I find their trends are always pretty high. So I can absolutely agree with you on that.
Speaker 2:Well, the thyroid type will be deficient in the metabolic function. You need to support them with iodine more than anything. You know the adrenal types can handle all the coffee in the world. The thyroid types cannot.
Speaker 1:Very interesting.
Speaker 2:Stimulants right.
Speaker 1:Can you be mixed or no?
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, you can. Well, it's a continuum. A continuum. If you can visualize a three-gland Venn diagram, you'll be somewhere on that, with some dominance, something stronger or not. There are people who are way in the middle, completely balanced, undifferentiated. They're really hard. They're really hard to manage because you can't offer them any advice. Anything you'll do is fine, I don't care. Do anything you'll do is fine I don't care, do anything you want.
Speaker 1:Do you find um that there's different parts of like you or do you think that there's different parts in like? Let's say this let's go with just the united states that people are more balanced than not, or is it just anywhere they live probably could have any sort of balance.
Speaker 2:I don't have statistics to tell you the United. States is a confusing thing because it has such mixing of races.
Speaker 1:Oh, I got you. Yeah, I could tell you. For example, it's a loaded question, I was a little no no, no, pick a sub-Saharan Africa. Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know the Gold Coast or whatever, from which most of the Africans that are here now, their ancestors came from there. Well, what did they eat there? They ate shorebirds, fish, because they were mostly coastal, some bushmeat. There was no dairy that I know of. They had manioc tapioca. They didn't have corn, they didn't have wheat right. So you import them here and try to feed them the Italian diet, and it's a fail.
Speaker 1:I see Very interesting.
Speaker 2:Most I don't know Hispanics. They are mostly coastal, most of them fishing tribes. But then you send it to Mexico and start interbreeding with the Aztecs and you have a whole new world.
Speaker 1:That's a whole other. I feel like you can have a whole other. There's so much there, right. There's so much that really changes the metabolic health.
Speaker 2:Yeah Well, the Europeans, you know they. So you have the warm climate europeans, the italian and french, and you have the cold ones, the norwegians and brits and scots, and what would you like?
Speaker 1:when you've been lately with um clients, have you been telling them more of you know, at least take in these superfoods. Or I'd like you to at least you know, reach out and just take, you know, more knowledge from my website. Like, understand where I'm coming from. Like, how do you like to help these individuals that you see, these clients?
Speaker 2:Well, the number one thing is don't do the wrong things. Like it's, it should be subtractive at first. Don't refine foods. You know flour and salt and oils, just don't do it. Fried food is not great. Don't do that. Fried food is not great, don't do that, let's go from there. Get clean water, get all the toxins out of your body. Do not put chlorine and glyphosate in your body and you have a pretty clean home, like your environment.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the soaps have to be free of fragrances, because all the artificial fragrances are endocrine disruptors. The signs are all around us the loss of fertility, the loss of interest in sex in the first place, the confusion of what gender you are. That's all the toxicity of the world we live in.
Speaker 1:There's just a lot of dominance, like the extra dominance, the toxic, like there's so many wrong, like there's so much irregularities, and it does come with. I mean, I don't even know if it's inflammatory process, I just like there could be. I don't even know if it's inflammatory process, I just like there could be a. I don't even know if that's the right.
Speaker 2:Well, inflammation is a symptom of the body trying to repair itself.
Speaker 1:Getting back to a balance.
Speaker 2:It's broken that we're trying to fix. Well, if you're eating a Taco Bell, you're injuring your body. Just by putting that stuff in your gut You're wrecking your inner terrain. Antibiotics don't help. I mean they can save you from dying from an infection. Don't get me wrong, but you need to repair from the assault that has wiped out your entire inner terrain.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's so, so sad. People ask I'm like, yeah, I feel like that's all. They want the quick fix.
Speaker 2:And then you go did you take some.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, you asked, how do we do it? Well, we find people as they come and we need to work with them individually. This is not a statistical medicine. We need to understand what will take you from where you are to where you need to be, and it's not the same thing for everyone. And that's the beauty of understanding the metabolic type or the biological individuality. And that's the one thing that I hold against the industry, the medical industry the most is that they are not taking into account biological individuality.
Speaker 1:I don't think they are. I don't think the personalized medicine and precision medicine is really being looked at and there's always that like algorithm, I guess the word is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, and statistical. You know, if I were average, I would have one testicle, one ovary, I would have one breast, my hair would be curly on half of my head and it would be straight on the other, and one of my eyes would be brown and the other one would be blue. That's your average human, not possible.
Speaker 1:Yeah, doesn't make sense. Yeah, so interesting. Oh, it's been such a pleasure having you on I. I feel like there's so much more we can dive into. Um, I want to first, can you um let the individuals know about your two websites and the name of your superfoods. Thank you, well, the.
Speaker 2:the brand is called exula, that's spelled e-x-s-u-l-a, and you'll find all of it on the life enthusiast website, life-enthusiastcom and um.
Speaker 1:My last question for you is what's in um? What's one of your main uh ingredients in your superfood that you, that people, are not getting in their nutrients?
Speaker 2:They're super complex. Oh, okay, they are 200 and 300.
Speaker 1:Ingredient salads oh goodness, okay, when you make your salad at home.
Speaker 2:You usually try to count it. Maybe five yeah if I'm lucky, Five to 10. We're putting together 300. The iridesca is 350 ingredients and the reason we do that is to create a palette that will cover the whole thing. It's like a symphony symphonic orchestra as opposed to a string quartet. We cover the whole thing.
Speaker 2:Sounds wonderful and there are functional fillers in there, we need fiber, we need em in there, we need fiber, we need emulsification, we need oils for fats, we need pigments and proanthocyanidins, blah, blah, blah All these complicated words that you don't really need to know about. But all of the things you know, the adaptogenics, the macronutrients, the micronutrients, the minerals, the vitamins, all of the stuff that you need. You need all of it in sufficient, meaningful quantity. And that's been the downfall of the industry is they don't make it absorbable. There's another point right, when we make these superfoods, we micronize them. Your body will extract nutrients only from the surface layer of what's ingested. So if you're not chewing well, you have less surface area from which to extract the nutrients. Well, we mill it down to very tiny particle size so that a lot of the surface is exposed. So you will get more out of a teaspoon of a finely milled product than you get out of a tablespoon of something that's coarse.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm, that's fascinating. I can't wait to have it for myself. So I want to try it out because I think I could always add in I'm probably in some manner nutrient dense in some way. When I think I'm doing okay, I still feel like I could improve. Yeah Well, it's been a pleasure having you on and I really appreciate your time.
Speaker 2:It's a real pleasure to be here. Thank you for asking.
Speaker 1:And I, yeah, I'm very fascinated by your work and I think that people need to be here. Thank you for asking and I, yeah, I, I I'm very fascinated by your work and I think that people need to be educated a little bit more. I mean that when they come in the podcast, listen a little bit more, but I really think that, um understanding this, their type, um understanding what they put in their bodies and, you know, asking a little bit more questions, and if they are able to get some of your superfoods like I'm going to go try myself, I'll let you know more about it and I'll put all of the information in the show notes. So, thank you again. Thank you, have a good day, guys, and make sure you make it a mindful way every day.
